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<wbr> Jun policy reviews series of ten: Chen Lihua about four countries in East Asia Cup - Zhao Min Chen Lihua Dialogue <wbr> Editor's note: 18 February 2008 began, my podcasts and blog added, "Kwan Policy Review" section. .Mainly to please is a partner of strategic Jun policy of hot events, news observation, reflection and comment. .Welcome to watch and comment. .(Content only personal point of view, does not mean the company is slightly Jun policy position). .<wbr> watch the video of this interview, please click http://you.video.sina.com.cn/zhaomin <wbr> <wbr> <wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: we continue to go to our gifted .Chen Lihua to tell us about the most interesting thing. .What makes you feel particularly interesting, or have thought, to tell us. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Actually, I have a talk about the most boring thing I think, is this weekend, I looked on the Chinese team and South Korea in 东亚四强赛 game. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: that is the most recent game. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Korean war, the result I expected, and we lost. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: be expected to. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Yes! .Be expected to. .I see now a number of public comments, but also condemning critics. .I'm a big fan of the veteran. .Because from the early 90s to start watching, be regarded as relatively long time. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> China: Ten years of history. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: It seems not seen the Chinese team won South Korea. .In fact, according to the probability of losing, are not normal, stands to reason that game so many times, there is always a fluke win, even the chances we did not see the results. .It may from the entire Chinese team to coach the Chinese team, including the entire Chinese Football Association, but also drowned in a smelly heap inside dog feces in the accused went to the Chinese public opinion is such, today is super good you play platinum, .dog feces foul play is not very realistic opinion. .Today, I always talk about why the Chinese team for the very reality that every Korean. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: that Konghan Zheng. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Konghan Zheng. .Of course Konghan not exist, I think you can be open to question. .However, numerous indeed every Korean is a fact. .So, what are the reasons behind? .Frodo may also criticized coach called a foreigner can not. .Football Association chairman Xie Yalong said there is not ability, but also said that so and so No, no. .Because we do consulting, we prefer a system from the perspective of the problem is how to defeat the inside, find some help on our experience of other organizations, because football is an industry, but also in the running of an organization .. .I think this problem, in fact, the failure of Chinese football is a systemic problem, the first question I feel like many companies, many organizations, this problem also exists, that is, the failure of human resources. .First, do not pass this level from the job. .Why? .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> China: Recruitment not pass? .<wbr> Chen Lihua: You see the Chinese team and the Korean team players, who in the end is how come. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: born from your mother's stomach. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: (laughs) This is the same. .But you can find the major Chinese players he left a sports school system, centralized training system, to enter some of the club's second team grow up. .And they are mainly concentrated in the cultural level of primary and secondary schools, about such a culture. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> China: No! .Nine-year compulsory education must be received in. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Many of sports schools which do not necessarily have received a very formal education. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> China: is the kind of simple calculations later, add a little sporting, cultural theory class by one point, but how is a high school. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Among the players from South Korea, many of which are from the league to their college, and that many are college culture. .We can not say that education must and any other general education as a place, it must be exactly the same, but fundamentally speaking, it should be clearly higher than the Chinese players a level. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: that is, how is a college. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Yes! .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: Or Big. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: See our China team, there is an old coach named Jin Zhiyang. .He is now in North Polytechnic College football team, he said, from the grasp of speaking, understanding speaking, than those he had with a lot of professional players stronger. .Although they are a pure amateur team, North Polytechnic or in a B inside a firm foothold. .This is the first one. .The second is that you can sense from the human culture of the team, I think I was surprised that Chinese football has some of the lead brother like this emerge, and what the ball Pa this word. .In other words, China's arena football team it is a culture, it is a group of outlaws, South Korea, it is an army of football, is a regular army, regular army you want to meet a group of outlaws, and that the probability of winning is very .small. .Therefore, from the culture, speaking from the organization's effectiveness, I think we have a chip lower than they are. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: in other words, one by one out of view, you are high school students, junior high, I was college students, a large degree, so alone you beat me, kill you. .Then wave of wave of view, this is the wave of your arena rules of the game, I call the armed forces of the rules of the game, so-called walk-style regular group of people, also hit business very easy. .In short, individual and collective looks like you are at a disadvantage. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: I think even more tragic is that if we simply Greenwood style it when folk culture. .Because you see inside our football in the last decade, there have been a lot of outlaws, such as Hao Haidong, Fan Zhiyi this star. .But sadly, because we have football, but also want to lead up to the so-called regular channels, so that caused some players to be denied one of individuality, there is no outlaw. .But on the other hand, has not become a regular, so I now look like a bunch of puppets, a group of disheveled soldiers residual Yong Yu, so that people do not appear over the possibilities. .This is from the first level, in terms of human resources from the. .The second level I think many people are likely to criticize the Chinese Football Association, as the Chinese Football Association to Yan Shiduo from Wang Junsheng, Xie Yalong to the present, three generations have been accused of Gouxue nozzle. .Bear the brunt of the blame is to serve as a Chinese football. .That which one I'd want to make their defense, I think they are big sports background in the whole of China, although China is now in the Olympic Games can take a lot of gold, but can not change China's current sports, in terms of the whole or universal speaking, the level of .is still at a relatively low level of such situation. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: in particular, football. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Football is just the situation we have such low performance only. .Because we are in other areas, such as table tennis is also a very good history, for example, we can go all the training diving can be good training. .WTA China or, as is the single breakthrough, but also to have a breakthrough. .Football itself is a mass movement because ... ... <wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: all the sports, if there are men and women, then women must be the first breakthrough, the man sure the game is, starting from table tennis to gymnastics, the women .football, to swimming, swimming is also a woman, including women's volleyball team, are so basic is so. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: I think not allow a department to assume the responsibility of the entire company. .Then, the same can not let the Chinese sports federation to undertake such a responsibility. .But also to reflect on the Chinese Football Association. .If the Chinese Football Association is the most innovative sports organizations too, why? .It is changing for so many years old, today for a coach, a coach for tomorrow, today asked Yang Shuai, tomorrow, please Valley handsome, also kept the replacement of the organization name, for example, there is strife, you see one, please a man .When the head coach, while another person invited to become head coach, head coach can also be restricted coach. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> China: The head coach is a foreigner or Chinese? .<wbr> Chen Lihua: are foreigners. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: coach is a foreigner. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Yes! .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: head coach is also a foreigner. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: But will please the coaching staff assisted a Chinese coach. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: big guys, or when the leadership? .<wbr> Chen Lihua: But will it actually perform their own report to the Chinese Football Association to do the functions. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: in other words there are three head or two heads? .<wbr> Chen Lihua: the first is actually only one, but its reporting lines and power lines are a lot of articles. .Do you want such a governance structure, how to make a Yangshuai the long-term stay, how to get a player to accept his message. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: in other words, there are CEO, a president, but also general manager. .Sounds disposes. .That it has a boss, but in fact is the same level with each other. .Two foreigners still has a lot of money requested. .Had requested one, now two. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: It is now Olympic team head coach and from, but is actually a bad results because the national football, head coach began to personally go to the training field, began to command training, but the coach is very embarrassing. .So such a system which, in fact, is more funny. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> China: Is the Football Association can speak a bit like a major shareholder, a bit like a head coach, chairman, coach a bit like CEO, following the coaching staff a bit like a general manager in China. .Line the next chairman of the board personally. .CEO on the next station. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: So this question, from the second level is concerned, from the organization concerned, the Chinese Football Association first of all I do not think great responsibility, but to see it play fast and loose, do not understand the basic management skills are limited .. .We can only hold compassion for him, but not all the mountains have put him. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: I was so looking at this issue, I guess from the outside, I think this is a different point of view of compromise. .The left can not win, the right can not win, how to do it? .Let the insurance that it! .Is the middle line, at each end, the results nothing on earth. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: You can see that Chinese Women are also experiencing this problem. .Chinese Women's coach, said Elizabeth, also a teacher. .A few days late, the Chinese leader to be criticized, it may take her replaced. .Football, like this period of time as farce. .The second meaning, which is from human resources to the organization of this level. .The last one, we Chinese football Oita level, we also know that a company, an organization, its development has a main business, a sideline, that its foreign business If not, then we do not need big investment .resources to do one thing, but it is strange that so many years Chinese soccer industry has always been considered very poor, poor thing, but we still do not worry, isolated to the input. .Actually, I think a very interesting thing. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: in other words, a particularly low return on investment of a sideline, but it attracted a large number of shareholders investment, and not results. .To the high wages these people, there are a lot of story. .Often for the club, from the industrial perspective, wherever he goes very confused, and finally all losses, down the drain. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Chinese football is a matter of fact you look casually play, the beginning of the play the entire national system, while the bottom club, are actually attached to the large state-owned enterprises before the operation, and their state-owned enterprises .absolutely not to operate according to market, are their own gang affiliated, to arrange some of the aged people, the past operation of the football industry is very complex. .Although many state-owned enterprises are now out, but in fact because of the mess they left behind, private enterprises a hard time from this point forward to a good run, so there must be a very long growing pains. .Like this, the Chinese football or engage in, engage in it, many people have no hope. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: because of the Chinese soccer team, many bosses scolded for less, and are calling him a go. .So the boss would not have abused. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: So This is also a lot of people have a spiritual sustenance. .Conversely, in fact, I think the Chinese football needs to consultants for help, at least they should know that the most basic management knowledge and ideas, in fact, is not complicated. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: I do not see the problem. .I think they do not have to consult companies are able to solve this problem. .The truth behind closed doors, everyone knows that, come out and do not understand, and are okay and his own, and this is actually a liability. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Of course, there are more behind the division level, such as benefits, interest groups, not the management of this problem can be resolved, but rather a question of property rights system, it is necessary to reform the country. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: this is very strange. .Three decades of reform and opening, and physical education reform has been so much success, to get the top three Olympic gold medals are the. .And what person in front of one football on the whole comes to an end. .My fellow Suzhou Yuan Weimin, five consecutive women's volleyball team was originally a master, went to number one sports bureau. .Finally, the football does not work. .Become a sports Waterloo, Bermuda, I. fame ruined there. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Actually, I think China's sports strength is not strong, our lives a lot less fun. .Like the Italian Serie A, Inter Milan did not win for 17 years, it has instead become a very interesting phenomenon, a lot of people love him. .Sun Han Chinese football three decades numerous, but also so that we miss him more. .So turn, the Chinese soccer team may have contributed to our fans, because it gives us a deeper understanding of the Chinese football, but also more profound reflection on the inherent problems of Chinese sports. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> China: Reflections on the reform of our system, reflect our management reforms, to reflect on our human resources policies. .Therefore, it is a good negative example. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Other companies can derive a very good lessons. .<wbr> Zhao <wbr> people: I believe you must be a positive material. .(Laughs) Well, we talk here today, thank you. .<wbr> Chen Lihua: Thank you! .<wbr> Guest Profile: Chen Lihua, director of policy advice is a little Jun, Tsinghua University, MBA, author of "the incentive to engage on," "the truth Consulting (Second Edition)", "consultation is life." .<wbr>.